Awaria Allegro.pl
- Dodano: 16 września 2008
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Największy polski serwis aukcyjny ma poważne problemy techniczne. Spowodowało to sporo utrudnień, przez co cierpią głównie początkujący użytkownicy serwisu.
Allegro.pl padł ofiarą awarii technicznej. Wielu użytkowników nie mogło się zalogować do serwisu aukcyjnego. Kupujący pomimo wygranych aukcji, nie zostali właścicielami przedmiotów. Sprzedający są zirytowani faktem pobrania pieniędzy z tytułu wystawienia aukcji, w przypadku gdy potencjalny klient nie mógł brać w niej udziału.
W efekcie awarii, większość aukcji kończących się w dniu dzisiejszym została przedłużona o 24 godziny. Na razie nie wiadomo jak sprawa będzie wyglądała z aukcjami, które zostały w czasie trwania awarii wystawione. Brak informacji, czy również te licytacje zostaną przedłużone.
Być może te problemy zostały spowodowane próbą wdrożenia nowego systemu miniatur na stronach sprzedawców.
Aktualizacja: Według użytkownika Efekt02 problem z Allegro pojawił się już szósty raz w ciągu ostatnich 18 dni.
Witam.
Niestety, w dniu wczorajszym (16.09) występowały problemy z prawidłowym funkcjonowaniem serwisu:
1. W godzinach 15:01 – 17:34 występowały problemy z logowaniem do serwisu. Dodatkowo, w godzinach 17:34 – 18:05 występowały problemy z wyświetlaniem się listingów aukcji.
W związku z tym aukcje kończące się tego dnia, między 15:01 a 18:20 zostały przedłużone o 24 godziny.
2. Kolejny problem miał miejsce w godzinach 18:55 – 20:04. W tym okresie występowały problemy z logowaniem do serwisu oraz licytowaniem.
W związku z tym aukcje kończące się tego dnia, między 18:55 a 20:19 zostały przedłużone o 24 godziny.
W imieniu serwisu przepraszam za wszelkie utrudnienia związane z powyższymi problemami.
Pozdrawiam,
Marcin Łuczak
Zespół Allegro
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Epic fail. Nie stać ich na środowisko testowe czy jak?
Przecież nie wiadomo, co było przyczyną awarii. Awarie zdarzają się wszędzie.
Szczególnie jak się testuje na żywca.
To są insynuacje niepoparte żadnymi dowodami takich praktyk. Nie sądzę żeby tak duży serwis jak Allegro mógł sobie pozwolić na takie rzeczy. Było by to po prostu skrajnie głupie.
Witam. Wystawiałem w tym czasie aukcje a w zasadzie zacząłem o 14 55 logując się normalnie wystawiłem dwie aukcje i się zaczęło, około 15:15 okazało się że nie ma ich w zakładce sprzedaje po chwili zobaczyłem nowe okienko odświeżania strony taki prostokąt na środku z paskiem stanu i napisem wczytuję. Nigdy wcześniej tego nie widziałem i jestem święcie przekonany że próbowali wprowadzić na żywca nowe funkcje. Zirytowałem się tym strasznie, miałem tylko chwilę czasu na wystawienie aukcji w efekcie 35 minut i dupa, dzisiaj jednak widziałem że aukcje są wystawione.
Co, że już ?
Przecież nie minęło nawet roku odkąd przesiedli się na lepsiejsze "rozwiązania Oracle ™".
A co tam – minusujcie mnie.
Ależ byłoby nudno, gdybym zawsze dostawał tylko plusy
Z doświadczenia w firmach, w których pracowałem wiem, że Oracle jest potężną bazą, jednak nie wybacza błędów wynikających z lamerstwa. Projektant bazy musi zadbać o m.in poprane indeksowanie (pomijam inne kwestie) oraz w przypadku indeksów wielokolumnowych zapytania, które zawsze go używają (a niestety często zdarza się, ze indeks sobie, a zapytanie sobie).
"System na Oracle" nie implikuje na "system super wydajny", ba, widziałem SAPowskie aplikacje za miliony dolarów, wdrażane miesiącami, które lepiej wykonałby student na zalicznie semestru z PHP.
A w przypadku awarii Allegro wcale nie zdziwiłbym się, gdyby zemścił się ten Oracle za niedopatrzenia.
W nowoczesnych RDBMSach projektant nie musi dbać o indeksowanie. Robi to za niego odpowiednie narzędzie. Tylko w Oracle trzeba wiedzieć, jak je włączyć.
A… no tak, zapomniałem, że zajmują się tym administratorzy nauczeni na opensourcowych imitacjach baz danych jak PostgreSQL i MySQL. I wszystko staje się jasne.
NIe przesadzaj. PostgreSQL nie jest zły…
NIe jest zły w prostych zastosowaniach.
Do hurtowni danych, gdzie masz TB danych i zapytania raportujące SQL na 20 stron generowane narzędziami (często b. naiwnymi), bez przepisywania zapytań, optymalizacji semantycznej, indeksów zmaterializowanych czy wielowymiarowych te systemiki nie mają co nawet podchodzić – takie rzeczy jak Teradata czy Vertica zjadają je na śniadanie.
Jest różnica czy zapytanie wykonuje się 10 minut czy tydzień.
Do systemów transakcyjnych – jak możesz obyć się bez poziomu izolacyjności SERIALIZABLE, którego Postgres nie obsługuje poprawnie, to jeszcze ujdzie.
Popatrz na konf. ACM SIGMOD / VLDB / DEXA. OpenSource na razie nie rozwija branży bazodanowej, tylko próbuje nadgonić ponad 20 letnią dziurę.
Z tego co zauważyłem, użytkownicy Oracle są równie fanatyczni, jak linuksiarze czy "wyznawcy" Apple. Tylko, że Linux czy produkty Apple przynajmniej działają i nie wymagają lat nauki i szkoleń, bo jeśli użytkownik zrobi coś o ułamek nie tak jak Oracle by sobie tego życzył, to nie dość, że to nie zadziała, to jeszcze 10 innych rzeczy, które działały, przestaną…
"lamerstwo"…
Pracowałeś kiedyś na tym Oraclu którego tak wychwalasz? Toż to działa jak chce, czasem tak, czasem inaczej ( głównie Formsy strzelają takie fochy, ale sama baza też ma lepsze i gorsze dni ). Niektóre rzeczy nawet taki MySQL ma lepiej zrobione…
Działałem. I silnik RDBMSa jest o wiele stabilniejszy i szybszy niż MySQLa czy innych OSS. Natomiast narzędzia i cała otoczka jest g***iana. Choćby weźmy sam fakt, że większość ludzi używa TOADa, a nie narzędzi Oraclowych.
Ale silniki komercyjnych RDBMSów projektują ludzie na nieco innym poziomie (stopień min dr), niż klepacze instalatorów, narzędzi GUI i innych badziewi. Czy ruch OSS ma choćby jedną osobę o dorobku S. Chaudhuri (Microsoft Research) czy D. Zilio (IBM)?
RDBMSy to taka dziedzina, gdzie nie wystarczy umieć programować w C i znać hacki systemu operacyjnego na szybsze czytanie danych z dysku, ale konieczna jest niezła znajomość algebry, statystyki i wszelkich technik AI. Tego na razie społeczności OSS mocno brakuje. Natomiast umiejętność optymalizacji kodu w C/C++ ma dosyć małe znaczenie – H2 napisane w "powolnej" Javie rozjeżdża MySQLa.
Nie mówiłem, że MySQL jest lepszy od Oracle, wspomniałem tylko, że są rzeczy, które są w nim lepsze – ot, żeby daleko nie szukać, klauzula LIMIT z SQL, czy własność auto_increment dla pola. Owszem, sekwencje pozwalają na większą kontrolę, ale troche to komplikuje kod – w przypadku auto wystarczy wstawiać nulla, przy sekwencjach trzeba zawsze pamiętać, jaka sekwencja jest powiązana z jakim polem.
Co do tego, że OSS brakuje dobrych programistów to się zgadzam, a przyczyna jest prozaiczna – dobrym programistom firmy są gotowe płacić dużo pieniędzy za pisanie kodu dla nich.
Typowe. Allegro może leżeć ale ich system ściągania należności działa jak bajka.
koniec monopolu allegro? ale bylo by ciekawie:)
Czy Ty rozumiesz, co oznacza słowo "monopol" ?
LCF, a Tobie trzeba wszystko tłumaczyć łopatologicznie
? Allegro jest monopolistą, a tego typu problemy mogą jego użytkowników skutecznie zniechęcić.
Czepiasz się.
Monopol, "dominant" – praktyka pokazuje że to jeden grzyb.
Firma nie musi mieć nawet monopolu żeby zaczęła zachowywać się jak monopol. Dominująca pozycja uderza do głowy.
Polaków trudniej przekonać do zmiany upodobań, tak samo jest przecież z GG, jest lekko mówiąc beznadziejny, a ludzie i tak go używają i tym samym nakręcają jego popularność. Podobnie jest z Allegro.
możesz zacząć przyjmować zakłady, czy uda mi się przemigrować na jabbera osobę, którą właśnie wziąłem na tapetę. Średnio zainteresowana, zielona w tej tematyce, młoda blondynka
szatox nie śpi… On szuka kolejnych słońc do przetrącenia XD
lepiej użyć słowo dominacja , allegro na dzień dzisiejszy i w perspektywie kilku najbliższych lat nie do przeskoczenia
allegro to nie jest bezpieczny serwis ale napewno najpopularniejszy , miało kilka dużych wpadek których przyczyną był według nich "wysoki" poziom bezpieczeństwa i jakości usług , czyżby kolejny hack ? . Więcej można się dowiedzieć wpisując w wyszukiwarce słowo allegro na witrynie hacking.pl .
A kto Twoim zdaniem jest tak super bezpieczny?
Przypadek, o którym piszesz jest śmieszny i tylko pokazujesz tym swój poziom.
Że takiej propagandy się doczekam na tym serwisie to nie sądziłem.
Mają problemy techniczne jak każdy mieć może – co zapewne jest spowodowane WIELKIM rozwojem i w zwiazku z tym koniecznosc wprowadzania zmian, a przecież zawsze przedłużają aukcje w takich wyadkach.
Widać na gadu gadu już nikt nie narzeka (czyt. też: nie pojawiają sie newsy typu serwer gadu gadu padł[..] już setny raz w ciągu tygodnia…), bo i wszyscy widać sie przyzwyczaili, stało się to chlebem powszednim.
Takie newsy pisze się wtedy, gdy niea m się o czym pisać.
Jak na mój gust pod względem wygody i przyjazności to: swistak.pl > allegro.pl >> ebay.com . W szczególności zastanawia mnie jak taki paskudny serwis jak ten ostatni stał się najpopularniejszym na świecie serwisem aukcyjnym… ;-P
Świstak, do porządnych serwisów nie należy.
Allegro jest zdecydowanie najlepsze.
Kupować coś na ebayu to prawdziwe katiusze.
BTW Gadu Gadu i Allegro = jedność.
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