Patent na WiFi – sąd orzekł, że trzeba płacić CSIRO
- Dodano: 15 października 2009
- Wprowadził: michuk
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Amerykański sąd przyznał australijskiej firmie badawczej CSIRO 200 milionów dolarów australijskich odszkodowania za patent na technologię wifi (802.11). Zapłaci 14 największych dystrybutorów ruterów.
CSIRO to firma finansowana przez rząd Australii, której pracownicy przygotowali standard 802.11. Ma ona również patent na tę technoologię. Od dłuższego czasu słała listy do dystrybutorów ruterów, aby zapłacili oni należną opłatę licencyjną. Gdy to zawiodło, wystąpili na drogę sądową.
Nigel Poole, dyrektor zarządzający CSIRO, powiedział:
Chcielibyśmy ponaglić firmy, które aktualnie sprzedają urządzenia z technologią 802.11 a,g lub n, aby skontaktowały się z CSIRO w celu wykupienia licencji, ponieważ wierzymy, że używają oni naszej technologii.
Na razie chodzi zapewne jedynie o rynek amerykański (ale też obcych producentów sprzedających produkty na tym rynku). Nie wiadomo czy firma ma przyznany patent również w innych krajach.
Czyżby czekała nas masowa migracja na WiMAX i UMTS?
Więcej informacji: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/158194,csi...nting.aspx
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Warto dodać, ze z wypowiedzi na Slashdocie wynika że ta firma jest autentycznie autorem tego standardu – to nie jest jakieś czcze patentowe trollowanie.
A co czeka zwykłych userów czeka w związku z tym wyrokiem ? Pewnie routery z WiFi podrożeją. Ciekawe tylko o ile…
Obstawiam, ze w ogole nie podrożeją. Takie wydatki są uwzględniane w budżecie firmy, a przy droższych urządzeniach byłby na nie mniejszy popyt.
dokładnie- taktyka firm jednak nakazuje, że jak nie muszą płacić to nie zapłacą.
A czemu mieliby migrować? 200 mln na 14 to mniej jak 15 mln na firmę, dla dużych firm to tyle co nic.
Inna już rzecz że szacowne międzynarodowe instytuty branżowe uchwalają standardami technologie, za których implementowanie trzeba płacić poszczególnym firmom mającym wkład w tworzenie tego standardu : czy nie jest tak, że skoro firma wynalazła standard i chce by inni się go trzymali, to niech umożliwi swobodne ze standardu korzystanie ?
Nie.
Czy nie na tym (m.in.) właśnie opierały się pełne oburzenia protesty przeciw OOXML, iż niejasna jest "patentowa" i "licencyjna" sytuacja względem f-my Microsoft?
W środowisku software normą jest oczekiwanie, iż standard=otwarty standard; W środowisku sieciowo-elektroniczym widać za taką oczywistość to nie uchodzi… chociaż w sumie głupie to trochę: gdy Metcalfe wynalazł Ethernet, POZWOLIŁ innym konstruować karty i inne urządzenia ethernetowe nie żądając za to opłat licencyjnych.
Czy OpenGL to otwarty standard? No, ma "Open" w nazwie. A jak chcesz zrobić własną implementację tego standardu, to musisz zapłacić za pozwolenie. Dlatego własnie Mesa nazywa się tak jak się nazywa i wszyscy mówią, że jest to standard "podobny do OpenGL", właśnie po to, żeby nie płacić opłat licencyjnych.
"Otwarte" nie znaczy "za darmo".
Tzn. nie za pozwolenie na implementacje, tylko właśnie za prawa do używania "zgodny ze standardem X".
Za wszystko sie płaci, nawet za naklejke z napisem "Zgodny ze standardem"
> skoro firma wynalazła standard i chce by inni się go trzymali, to niech umożliwi swobodne ze standardu korzystanie ?
Standard zatwierdza komitet standaryzacyjny, złożony z przedstawicieli danej gałęzi przemysłu i to on określa, czy oferowane zasady licencjonowania są zadowalające czy nie (=do przełknięcia dla firm delegujących jego członków). W większości przypadków sprowadza się to do tego, że licencje mają być dostępne na zasadach RAND (reasonable and non-discriminatory).
A czy WiMAX i UMTS nie są objęte żadnymi patentami?
> australijskiej firmie badawczej CSIRO
Raczej agencji albo instytutowi.
> Nie wiadomo czy firma ma przyznany patent również w innych krajach.
Wiadomo, i można to sprawdzić w bazie Espacenet w ciągu 30 sekund. Tak, ma, w Europie i Japonii.
To już wiadomo dlaczego ten niedawno wymyślony projekt alternatywnego internetu po wifi ma być oparty o 802.11b.
Projekt alternatywnego internetu ma być po wszystkich możliwych sieciowych technologiach. Najłatwiej w tej chwili stworzyć jakąś większą sieć obejmującą miasto, kilka miast, za pomocą 802.11, ale przecież nikt nie zabrania korzystania z inszych technologii, nie?
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