Adobe wyeksportuje Flash do HTML5

Adobe na konferencji MAX zaprezentowało prototyp nowej wersji Flash Pro. Ma ona w prosty sposób umożliwiać deweloperom Flasha eksport swoich animacji do formatu HTML5 wspomaganego CSS3.

Adobe zaskoczyło wszystkich tym produktem. Wydaje się, że właśnie otwarty HTML5 w dłuższej perspektywie jest największą konkurencją dla Flasha, technologii własnościowej Adobe.

Z drugiej jednak strony, narzędzie umożliwiające tworzenie za pomocą produktów Adobe kreacji które będą wyglądać równie dobrze we Flashu jak i w HTML5 może być jedyną drogą. Inaczej użytkownicy w pewnym momencie po prostu zrezygnowaliby z tych aplikacji.

Poniżej film na którym deweloper Adobe prezentuje narzędzie w działaniu:

Jeśli firmie uda się szybko wprowadzić produkt na rynek, może on znacznie ułatwić tworzenie stron mobilnych np dla iPhone czy iPada, nie wspierających technologii Flash, bez konieczności rezygnacji z narzędzi Adobe. A o to oczywiście chodzi.

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  1. Awatar przemoc
    przemoc

    Way to go, Adobe. Flash może nie jest ich najlepszym produktem eksportowym (choć z pewnością jednym z najbardziej rozpoznawalnych, mimo że to nie oni go stworzyli), ale zawsze widziałem po efektach, że ichnie zespoły, niezależnie od aplikacji, którą się zajmują, naprawdę się starają (choć w różnym tempie, ale to inna kwestia).

  2. Awatar Cyber Killer
    Cyber Killer

    No proszę, respect dla Adobe za trzeźwe podejście do sytuacji – świat nie chce flash playera, więc nie będą zmuszać, a ich narzędzia nadal ludzie będą mogli używać do tworzenia. Widać że ktoś tam potrafi myśleć.

    1. Awatar abec
      abec

      Świat chce flash-playera, ale niekoniecznie od adobe. A skoro nie oni będą go doatsrczać, to dl anich równie dobrze może go nie być… Rozwiązanie faktycznie genialne, i znacznie lepsze od stosu konkurencyjnych flashplayerów. Naprawdę jestem pod wrażeniem.

      1. Awatar mariusz
        mariusz

        Zaraz zaraz… Adobe chyba na samym playerze nie zarabia, tylko na programie do tworzenia flashowych animacji, wiec co za roznica kto bedzie robil player (zakladajac, ze trzymalby sie standardow Adobe)?

        1. Awatar michuk
          michuk

          Spora. Nikt nie zrobi tak dobrego narzędzia do tworzenia aplikacji we Flashu / Fleksie jak Adobe bo tylko oni mają odpowiednią wiedzę. Narzędzia do HTML może robić każdy.

        2. Awatar mariusz
          mariusz

          Niby tak, ale program do edycji zdjec i grafiki rastrowej tez moze robic kazdy 😉

        3. Awatar Miszy
          Miszy

          @mariusz: Yup, dlatego używam GIMP-a 😉

      2. Awatar halish
        halish

        nie chce flash-playera, bo nie jest do niczego potrzebny. większość rzeczy, które oferuje na chwilę obecną/niedługą przyszłość będzie dostępna w przeglądarkach.

        1. Awatar konski_pytong
          konski_pytong

          ale obecnie to flash jest szybszy i wydajniejszy niz HTML5

        2. Awatar el.pescado
          el.pescado

          HTML5 też nie jest do niczego potrzebny;)

  3. Awatar Bartek Krawczyk
    Bartek Krawczyk

    Świetnie to rozwiązali. I wilk syty i owca cała.

  4. Awatar pp
    pp

    swiat nie chce flash playera? a to dobre. stevuś jeden jedyny co obrażony wymachuje palcem, a tu nagle cały świat…

  5. Awatar Michał Jach
    Michał Jach

    Makowcy się ucieszą jeśli będzie to działać poprawnie.

    1. Awatar michuk
      michuk

      Bardziej ipadowcy i iphone’owcy.

      1. Awatar marcinsud
        marcinsud

        w nowym osx ponoć chcą się pozbyć flasha, więc nigdy nic nie wiadomo.

        1. Awatar matei
          matei

          Nie siej fudu. Usunęli po prostu flasha z domyślnej instalacji po to, aby użytkownicy pobierali sobie sami najnowszą wersję flasha. Taka sytuacja ma miejsce chociażby w Windows.

      2. Awatar Miszy
        Miszy

        Wszyscy się ucieszą 😀

  6. Awatar me
    me

    jeden z komentarzy do tego filmu na youtube:
    proszę nie róbcie tego! użyjcie canvas albo zachowajcie flashplayera, ale nie przesycajcie stron niesemantyczną, niezwiązaną z treścią zawartością.
    Potężny wynalazek, ale całkowicie zła koncepcja.

    1. Awatar Killavus
      Killavus

      90% sieci jest niesemantyczna, wyjątki w ogóle biorą pod uwagę semantyczność (X)HTML / CSS przy tworzeniu swoich projektów, chociaż często nie potrafią jej do końca wprowadzić. Nie mówiąc już o tym, że 90% sieci nie wie co to kompresja, optymalizacja zapytań HTTP, zasady typografii, dobrego designu itp. Innymi słowy – dzisiejsza sieć to niezły crap.

      Cóż, wynalazek Adobe nic nie zmieni w materii semantyczności. Chociaż bardzo mi się to podoba – osobiście jestem zwolennikiem tworzenia stron bez embedowanych “obiektów”, gdyż są one łatwiejsze w zarządzaniu, szybsze, bardziej przystępne np. dla użytkowników urządzeń mobilnych lub osób niepełnosprawnych… a eksport Flasha do HTML5 na pewno pomoże. Nie traktowałbym jednak tej funkcji jako “użyj i wrzucaj”, tylko jako pewien punkt wejściowy do przeróbek.

      Pozdrawiam.

      1. Awatar Killavus
        Killavus

        Och, oczywiście miałem na myśli, że podoba mi się technologia Adobe, a nie aktualny stan wiedzy na temat semantyki ;).

        1. Awatar me
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          mam nadzieję że w praktyce będą to dodawali zewnętrznym skryptem, czy ramką, lepiej gdyby użyli elementu canvas, ale to pewnie trudniejsze. nie wiem co dokładnie miał na myśli autor komentarza, może tylko multum div-ów. semantyczność sieci to mógłby być święty graal wielkich braci…

  7. Awatar launchpad.net/~mgol
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    When the Flash is converted to HTML 5 does it still retain the original Gaping Malware Portal functionality?

    Co fakt, to fakt — mało jest dużych firm, które tak sobie olewają bezpieczeństwo, jak Adobe. Mam zainstalowany na Windowsie w VirtualBoksie program PSI Secunia i widzę, że jak tylko pojawia się jakaś luka w Adobe Readerze czy Flashu (a dzieje się to dość często), to od razu ma status “Extremely critical”, a w opisie “system access from remote”. Safari czy Quicktime też często jest dziurawe, ale rzadko kiedy te dziury są tak niebezpieczne…

  8. Awatar jarek
    jarek

    Na pewno opor Apple nic tu do rzeczy nie mial,
    Adobe tak po prostu z dobroci serca 😀

  9. Awatar niedzwiedz
    niedzwiedz

    I przez to mam (będę miał :P) powód by kupić Flasha w (nie)dalekiej przyszłości 😛

    1. Awatar dave
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  10. Awatar sadi
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    Mam nadzieję, że oznacza to zbliżającą się śmierć Flash Playera. Osobiście byłbym zachwycony takim rozwojem sytuacji, bo pod Linuksem same z nim problemy. Inna sprawa, że gdyby nie filmy we Flashowych odtwarzaczach to już dawno pozbyłbym się Flash Playera. 99% pozostałych treści we Flashu to reklamy, albo irytujące wodotryski.

    1. Awatar abec
      abec

      Na szczęście w przypadku video flash nie jest już niekonieczny.

      Ciągle jest jednak sporo całych stron we flashu.
      Moja żona nie zdzieżyłaby braku dostępu do stron firm odzieżowych, kosmetycznych itd…

      Mój były pracodawca upierał się, że strona jego firmy szkoleniowej też musi być we flashu. Podobnie jak materiały do szkoleń internetowych. Ale to nie było normalne i to można pominąć.

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