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Pamiętacie wizualne edytory stron WWW, Mozilla Composer, Nvu i KompoZera? Zbliża się ich następca, BlueGriffon.

Od dwóch lat nie pojawiły się żadne nowe wersje tych programów, a prace nad Nvu zostały nawet oficjalnie wstrzymane. W tej sytuacji oparty na silniku Gecko “błękitny gryf” niejako przejmuje ich rolę.

Wybieranie skórki tabeli

Program rozwija się przynajmniej od końca września i wciąż ma charakter roboczy. W tej chwili dostępne są wersje binarne dla Windows, trwają próby przeportowania go na Maka, a następny w kolejce będzie Linux. Jego interesującą cechą jest komponowanie tabel z użyciem CSS, oferuje nawet gotowe “skórki” z wyglądem tabeli.



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  1. Awatar michuk
    michuk

    Jego interesującą cechą jest komponowanie tabel z użyciem CSS

    Na pewno chodzi o tabele? Jeśli tak to jakaś masakryczna bzuda i przegięcie w drugą stronę. Tabele robimy z użyciem <code>table</code>, a layout z użyciem <code>div</code> i CSSów…

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    1. Awatar kocio
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      No tak, znacznik "table" jest — autor dokładnie tak to opisuje:

      http://bluegriffon.org/post/2008/10/01/CSS-rulez

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    2. Awatar Paweł Kondzior
      Paweł Kondzior

      Bzdura jest to o czym ty piszesz, layout jestes w stanie stworzyc za pomoca tabel lub dvi'ow lub tez obu jednoczesnie. CSS nie ma ograniczenia aby nadawac style tylko div'om, jestes w stanie opisac wyglada div i tabel za pomoca css, roznice sa w interpretacji przez przegladarke styli dla tag'ow table lub dla tagow div. Uzywajac tabel jestes w stanie wykonac pewne rzeczy latwiej, uzywajac div'ow jestes w stanie wykonac pewne rzeczy piszac mniej kodu html. Idac dalej, obecnie, mozesz nawet uzywajac atrybutu display: uzyc div'ow ktore beda zachowywaly sie jak tabele. Jesli jestes koderem css/html, powinienes byc swiadomym tego ze obecnie tworzenie stron to sztuka kompromisu i nie nalezy trzymac sie tylko i wylacznie tabel albo tylko i wylacznie div'ow poniewaz to czysty sadomasochizm.

      PS. Griffon pozwala ci na opisywanie wygladu tabel za pomoca css. To co z tym zrobisz zalezy juz od ciebie.

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      1. Awatar wujek_bogdan
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        do powyższej wypowiedzi dodam ze przyjęło się, ze layouty robimy używając divow a dane tabelaryczne przedstawiamy za pomocą tabelek (np. cennik, rozkład zajęć, itd) – do tego zostały stworzone. nieużywanie tabelek na siłę, dla zasady, tylko po to żeby być PRO to tak jak wspominasz czysty sadomasochizm 😉 … podobnie jak tworzenie layoutów za pomocą samych tabelek.

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        1. Awatar snc
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          Ponoć opracowywane kolejne wersje XHTML-a mają rozwiązać ten problem.

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        2. Awatar wujek_bogdan
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          …pod warunkiem ze kolejne wersje przeglądarek będą obsługiwać nowy standard.

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        3. Awatar Pablo
          Pablo

          Jaki problem?
          Jak napisał wujek_bogdan, każdy znacznik ma swoje główne zastosowanie. A nawet wygodnie jest używać go zgodnie z nim (chociaż oczywiście np. możliwość budowania layoutu na tabelkach jest).

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    3. Awatar D3X
      D3X

      michuk, ale kto Ci każe robić layout na tabelkach stylowanych CSSem? CSS jest po to, żeby tabelka jakoś wyglądała. Zapewne chodzi tu o style nagłówków, przemienne tło w parzystych/nieparzystych wierszach czy choćby podświetlanie danego wiersza tabeli po najechaniu na niego myszą (tr:hover, oczywiście nie obsługiwane przez IE co najmniej do wersji 6 bez dodatkowych kombinacji – tzw. "behaviors").

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    Huh? Mozilla Composer żyje — ściągnij Seamonkey i masz najnowszą wersję Composera:

    http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

    Ostatnia stabilna wersja, 1.1.13, została wydana 2008-10-30.

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